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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Thu 14 Sep 2017 - 21:20

Goodness gracious.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sun 17 Sep 2017 - 19:54

So I've beaten the first big boss, and have four different monsters (I will not call them Monsties) in my party, as well as a duplicate hanger-on who'll be relegated to the stables the moment I find a fifth.  It's really odd, the way they try and present murdering the monsters as an alternative and equally valid way of life.  Like if Pokémon went, 'Oh but if you want to hack Pikachu to pieces with a big sword and not bother with the whole raising "thing", that's cool too.'

But anyway, I'm having more fun with this now.  The combat's good, although I'm still not quite sure whether there are visual tells for everything, or whether I'm imagining some of them.  And I want to hatch a pig thing, but the game tells me I can't. Aww!

That said, although Nyavirou has become bearable, I still groan when the Chief turns up.  Rhyming was good in Child of Light because it fit the overall feel of the game.  Here, he just feels like some chap trying too hard to be 'alternative'.  Which would be fine, only we're meant to respect him as chief of the village, and I feel it'd be just as valid locking him up in the stables with a hungry Velocidrome.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sun 17 Sep 2017 - 20:35

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It's really odd, the way they try and present murdering the monsters as an alternative and equally valid way of life.  Like if Pokémon went, 'Oh but if you want to hack Pikachu to pieces with a big sword and not bother with the whole raising "thing", that's cool too.'

I suppose this is a by-product of this being your first game in the Monster Hunter world. For me, I was more interested to see how they rationalised Riders never popping up in the main series as hunting the monsters was the only way of life known to players until Stories.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 1:10

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And I want to hatch a pig thing, but the game tells me I can't.  Aww!

Do you mean the poogie's that you find? If so I don't blame you because they are amazing!

Just look at them!

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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 5:45

Nah, I came to terms with not having my own Poogie early on. I mean the boar-like enemies.

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It's really odd, the way they try and present murdering the monsters as an alternative and equally valid way of life.  Like if Pokémon went, 'Oh but if you want to hack Pikachu to pieces with a big sword and not bother with the whole raising "thing", that's cool too.'

I suppose this is a by-product of this being your first game in the Monster Hunter world. For me, I was more interested to see how they rationalised Riders never popping up in the main series as hunting the monsters was the only way of life known to players until Stories.

They did that fairly easily, I thought, by isolating the Riders in their village. I don't think it's to do with it being my first game though - I knew what the main meat of the series consisted of. It's just the way a village that bases its way of life around looking after monsters is completely okay with them being slaughtered for fun and profit elsewhere. I loathe hunting in real life, I'd expect someone in the village to feel the same way.

Not that I'd expect Capcom to question the morals of the main series; but in not doing so, it has to put up with the resulting dissonance.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 13:37

I ASSUME YOU'VE LISTENED TO OUR SPECIAL PODCAST WITH JOE SKREBELS WHERE WE DISCUSS THIS MORALITY, YES?

Anyway, the world is very much a hunter/ gatherer, barely able to farm society where monsters kill people all the time. Even in Stories, the Monsties are hatched from birth, and wild monsters are still a genuine threat that needs dealing with. I don't think you'll meet anyone more opposed to modern hunting than me, I nearly cried at a birds of prey sanctuary yesterday during a presentation on how poaching is wiping out the vulture, but in the Monster Hunter world it isn't callous sport but a dangerous and necessary fight for survival.

You know your character is using a monster to kill other monsters, right? Like they use a sword as well, you're doing the same thing as a hunter, you just have a buddy helping you out.

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And just think - a little over a year ago I'd never played a Monster Hunter game before. Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 19:50

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Nah, I came to terms with not having my own Poogie early on.  I mean the boar-like enemies.

Read if you've reached the second big area or if you're not fussed about some early-game monster appearance spoilers:
 

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And just think - a little over a year ago I'd never played a Monster Hunter game before. Shocked

I'm so proud of our Jay Grin

I'm still convinced Guesstus Flask was a long con to get me to play Monster Hunter.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 20:10

Don't worry, I've reached that area. Pig success! Grin Also...

Rare-ish second area monster:
 

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Anyway, the world is very much a hunter/ gatherer, barely able to farm society where monsters kill people all the time. Even in Stories, the Monsties are hatched from birth, and wild monsters are still a genuine threat that needs dealing with. I don't think you'll meet anyone more opposed to modern hunting than me, I nearly cried at a birds of prey sanctuary yesterday during a presentation on how poaching is wiping out the vulture, but in the Monster Hunter world it isn't callous sport but a dangerous and necessary fight for survival.

You know your character is using a monster to kill other monsters, right? Like they use a sword as well, you're doing the same thing as a hunter, you just have a buddy helping you out.

Maybe I don't know enough about the wider series lore, and probably never will. The only bit I've actually played is the MH4 demo., which was heading out into a monster's territory f'ra laugh with yer cat buddies to chop him/her up. It's probably more subtle than that. Subtle like a penis dragon.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 18 Sep 2017 - 20:21

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Don't worry, I've reached that area.  Pig success! Grin Also...

Rare-ish second area monster:
 

Well...:
 
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Wed 20 Sep 2017 - 18:56

Ha! I has one. It is very silly. Prefer the other one though.

Although it's not my favourite... Possibly the best thing about this game is how each monster feels noticeably different to ride. Nowhere is this more true than...

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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Wed 20 Sep 2017 - 20:03

Have you used its kinship skill yet Balla? You're in for a treat.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Thu 21 Sep 2017 - 20:19

Give me time. I do however have its armour. Trucy Wright cosplay or Guardian from Bravely Second? Decisions decisions...

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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Fri 22 Sep 2017 - 20:42

Has anyone seen the news? Apparently an upconming patch is adding loads of rideable monsters. Capcom showing how it's done, as per usual.

Also, I've got a lot of time for Balla's current location.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Fri 22 Sep 2017 - 20:48

I'm absolutely up for more rideable monsters.  Just been catching hatching some more on Monsonne Plains.  Want dat spongey thing.  I have less time for silly-nosed dragon.  

A criticism I have: too many reptiles.  The mammals/amphibians are by and large my favourites. Also, I'm guessing the monsters don't 'evolve': surely it would make sense to have Zamites evolving into Zamtrioses? Maybe not from the point of view of the series as a whole, but as a Pokémon-alike... I know there'd then be an issue with memory constraints, hopefully this gets a sequel on Switch.

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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sat 23 Sep 2017 - 1:49

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A criticism I have: too many reptiles. The mammals/amphibians are by and large my favourites. Also, I'm guessing the monsters don't 'evolve': surely it would make sense to have Zamites evolving into Zamtrioses? Maybe not from the point of view of the series as a whole, but as a Pokémon-alike... I know there'd then be an issue with memory constraints, hopefully this gets a sequel on Switch.

I think the closest thing you will get to evolving is changing the elemental statuses they can do, so you could have a Zamtrios do fire damage if you wanted to.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sun 24 Sep 2017 - 1:01

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A criticism I have: too many reptiles.

Hmm... you'll get plenty of wyverns and monsters which are essentially dinosaurs, but there's some good 'uns coming your way soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Mon 25 Sep 2017 - 21:52

Reverto has showed up.  For real. And he's talking to Navirou.

I'm back to thinking the characters are rubbish again. Matthew Castle
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Fri 29 Sep 2017 - 20:36

Never mind that...

What the heck is this???:
 

It's hilarious! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Fri 29 Sep 2017 - 21:51

That's the good old Qurupeco, one of my favourites because it can mimic other monsters roars for help or also sing a wee song that puts you to sleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Fri 29 Sep 2017 - 22:18

I mean I've hatched one, so I know its name.  It's just... I just...

Well played, designers.  You've lumbered me with a fair few shoddy ones (case in point: the one the boss brings along that's an utterly standard-issue dragon), this is a belter. Applause
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sat 30 Sep 2017 - 13:29

I shall be returning to playing this soon as I am now on the final stretch of getting 100 percent in Samus Returns.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sat 30 Sep 2017 - 19:28

Snap! I've been lost in Xenoverse 2 and Samus Returns but I'm eager to get back to this.

Love that you're enjoying the monsters, Balla, makes me smile. Smile

I don't know if this question has been posed to you yet, but with you getting into the world of Monster Hunter, has it at all tickled your fancy to play one of the main series games?
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sat 30 Sep 2017 - 20:45

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Snap! I've been lost in Xenoverse 2...

WRONG GAME WITH 'XENO' IN IT DAMN YOU!

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Love that you're enjoying the monsters, Balla, makes me smile. Smile

Ehh... I don't want to make that happy expression sad, buuuuut... 😅 there are some good ones and a lot of slightly dull dragon/dinosaur ones. I won't tolerate any fan of the Monster Hunter series criticising Pokémon designs from now on, put it that way.

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I don't know if this question has been posed to you yet, but with you getting into the world of Monster Hunter, has it at all tickled your fancy to play one of the main series games?

It hasn't, and... er... it hasn't. Sorry. For a few reasons: the gameplay is completely different, and from what brief experience I've had, I prefer the MHS gameplay; the focus is on single-player, and I remain worried about the combination of online multiplayer and my addictive personality; and looking at the monster designs on Google, the art style looks a lot more colourful and fun in MHS compared to the main games. A main game Qurupeco still looks stupid, but stupid in a way that'd rip your arm off when it's done.

I am enjoying the game though. Apart from Navirou. And the pink sub-quest dragon that just tore my team a new one.
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PostSubject: Re: Monster Hunter Stories: Monsters that are Ten Stories Tall   Sat 30 Sep 2017 - 22:03

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Ehh... I don't want to make that happy expression sad, buuuuut... 😅 there are some good ones and a lot of slightly dull dragon/dinosaur ones. I won't tolerate any fan of the Monster Hunter series criticising Pokémon designs from now on, put it that way.



I joke of course because it's just personal preference at the end of it all & you clearly lean to side of liking the cutesy stuff more.

To the bit in bold: We get where you are coming from as we've said as much on the early eps of Monster mash about the dromes etc being "just a dinosaur" but I will say that the monsters come alive in a certain way in the main series that is always going to be tough to fully portray in Stories as they might have a move set or a personality that offsets the dragon/dinosaur design.

As for the pokemans it also has own version of the "dull dragon/dinosaur" an it's oh it's just a mouse/cat/fish/coconut tree. Razz
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