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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 11:18

What are you expecting me to say? We all know that I think the only good N64 game is Paper Mario Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 11:25

That's why we definitely question your sanity.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 11:29

There are a lot of N64 games that I never played: the Blast Corps, Pilotwings 64 and Diddy Kong Racing that g mentioned in his thread revival! post all count, for example. I was off at uni for a good chunk of the N64's lifespan and when I was at home, where our N64 was based, I struggled with the 3Dification of my favourite games, as I have recounted umpteen times on this very forum. I'd probably put myself closer to the 'Dislike' than the 'Like' camp in terms of N64 love... but I recognise its position in Nintendo's history.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 12:29

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There are a lot of N64 games that I never played: the Blast Corps, Pilotwings 64 and Diddy Kong Racing that g mentioned in his thread revival! post all count, for example. I was off at uni for a good chunk of the N64's lifespan and when I was at home, where our N64 was based, I struggled with the 3Dification of my favourite games, as I have recounted umpteen times on this very forum. I'd probably put myself closer to the 'Dislike' than the 'Like' camp in terms of N64 love... but I recognise its position in Nintendo's history.

That's interesting. I would have thought the N64 saw a lot of activity in university accommodation, particularly with Goldeneye 007.

I wasn't actually playing the monumental stuff like Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time - I was all about the wrestling games, ISS and the FPS titles like Turok 2 and Goldeneye. I think that's why I hold the console so closely to my heart - because it not only had the classic Nintendo franchises (Mario, Star Fox et al) but it also had the best wrestling game (No Mercy), the best football game (ISS 98 - for a time at least) and the best FPS. There was also the fact that the PlayStation was more popular, so the N64, especially with the wonderful N64 Magazine, felt like a club where those who owned one knew that it was a great system. A bit like the Dreamcast I guess.

Saying that, 99% of the games have aged badly - as Andy says, Paper Mario and other I'd add a few distinct titles like Rakuga Kids and maybe Mischief Makers have held up better.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 17:38

We were discouraged from having TV's in our rooms... and I never met anyone who was into the N64. It was all PC games, if anything. Meh
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 20:25

I'm still an N64 gamer, and have been for twenty years. And while I agree that the games have largely aged badly visually, the gameplay remains undamaged. Even a game like Super Smash Bros - which has undoubtedly been surpassed - is still massively playable.The only stuff that's aged is the stuff that wasn't any good in the first place.

When we had that console vote on here a few years ago, I think I said "legends stand alone" when I was typing about the N64. It's impact was phenomenal, it's library unrivalled.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 20:30

I do feel that the games are aged now. Even the gameplay has for me - SM64's camera, OoT's Hyrule Field. But I'll always remember it fondly, the games were blinding at the time.

As for games I've missed, Snowboard Kids and Rakuga Kids spring to mind. I like games with kids in apparently.


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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 20:37

On the topic of Rakugakids, I remember when I had a Beartank avatar on the NGamer Forums, and the magazine made a comment calling me and the picture "overly effeminate". I'm sure that wasn't the only time they took a dig at me either.

Anyway, "the games are aged now", kiss my arse, suck my willy, sniff my manky ring, etc etc.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 20:42

I only played Goldeneye for the first time in about 4 years and that's held up really well, like I've said before and I'll say again a good game will always be a good game.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 20:52

Eh. May just be what I'm used to. But I was gutted when I went back to SM64 on the Wii U VC and found the camera a pain in the arse. Honestly and truly gutted. I have a whole lot of love for that game, but most of it seems to be nostalgia now. Aww! (Nostalgia and level design and the water music, anyway.)

You know what I don't think's aged, though, and is still great? The controller. While everyone else raves about the GC's offering, I found that my hands fit brilliantly into the two right prongs. And that Z-trigger! Get rid of the mostly superfluous left prong, and you'd have my favourite pad ever.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 21:21

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Eh. May just be what I'm used to. But I was gutted when I went back to SM64 on the Wii U VC and found the camera a pain in the arse. Honestly and truly gutted. I have a whole lot of love for that game, but most of it seems to be nostalgia now

I played through SM64 a few years back and it still holds up. It felt more responsive than something like Banjo-Kazooie, but Mazza was definitely a little slower than he was in Galaxy or Sunshine. I never really had problems with the camera - it's impeccable when put up against Sonic Adventure.

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I'm still an N64 gamer, and have been for twenty years. And while I agree that the games have largely aged badly visually, the gameplay remains undamaged. Even a game like Super Smash Bros - which has undoubtedly been surpassed - is still massively playable.The only stuff that's aged is the stuff that wasn't any good in the first place.

I kind of see where you're coming from. The gameplay remains intact but games with more recent entries have definitely made refinements (Sunshine to SM64, Double Dash to MK64, Timesplitters to Goldeneye/Perfect Dark etc.) so they inevitably feel inferior, in my opinion at least. The AKI/THQ wrestling games remain great, although Pro Evolution Soccer has made ISS look very dated. Turok is a series that I feel hasn't aged well either, mostly because it's sluggish and takes place in massive levels (although that in itself was very ahead of its time).

Rakuga Kids was a game I picked up for 8 quid in 2000 and I remember it having some genuinely funny movesets. A guy who calls for a pizza and the delivery guy runs the opponent over, throwing the opponent in to a lift and it plummets fifty floors - that game was a good laugh with an amazing visual style.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 21:53

I envy you, sir - both for playing Rakuga in the console's heyday, and still being able to play my favourite (if not the best IMHUAOWO) game ever and love it. Maybe I ought to play Sonic Adventure, would that help? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 22:02

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I envy you, sir - both for playing Rakuga in the console's heyday, and still being able to play my favourite (if not the best IMHUAOWO) game ever and love it. Maybe I ought to play Sonic Adventure, would that help? Very Happy

I wouldn't wish that upon you, but I'd definitely be interested in your opinion of the Dreamcast. Especially as you love Mario Tennis (Virtua Tennis is superior IMO), Last Window (Shenmue is similar) and Smash Bros (Power Stone 2 is a bit like Smash in 3D environments). They've aged better than N64 games too. Maybe if I get you in secret Santa I'll sort something out Grin
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 22:08

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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 22:18

Sonic Adventure is great still, also of course Dreamcast games have aged better they're from a whole generation on from the N64.
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PostSubject: Re: N64 Discussion Thread   Tue 21 Feb 2017 - 8:51

masofdas wrote:
I only played Goldeneye for the first time in about 4 years and that's held up really well, like I've said before and I'll say again a good game will always be a good game.

Now I love Goldeneye to bits & it was the only N64 game I owned for about a year so it got a lot of play time but I revisited it a couple of years ago and while everything else design wise about it has stood up the controls for me did not.

Definitely still a cracking game even if it was a bit of shock to the system having to wrestle with those old fps controls.

EDIT: This eurogamer late to the party video on Goldeneye is a good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvE8Zg1Ap4
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