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PostSubject: Ah. This is awkward...   Sun 20 Jan 2013 - 10:07

GUYS GUYS GUYS

I presume you've seen the message Mr. Scullion has posted on the old NGamer forum...

http://forums.computerandvideogames.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=145760

Um...
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Sun 20 Jan 2013 - 10:48

I was going to create some sort of poll, asking whether we wanted to use one forum or both, but the consensus from people I've asked (not counting the unreliable-as-heck Sporky) is that we should naturally let that decision be made. However, I will probably send a PM to Chris over at the old place, letting him know the situation. He's done well by us, poor chap, and he deserves to know what's going on.

I'll continue to use both for the time being, but I can see one being phased out over time. And the way things are going, I can see that being NGamer. Aww!
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Sun 20 Jan 2013 - 12:01

Indeed. I feel rather awkward about all this, but in our Admin discussion the other day I voted to support both forums. Were a poll ever to materialise, I would do the same again. I don't know what's going to happen with forum traffic here at the moment; we've doubled the number of members I expected when we were looking for a new home. I don't know if this is novelty factor, but I suppose we'll just have to see how everything pans out and let people make their own minds up.

Oh, and sporkhead sent us his apologies the other day. He's swamped in his university work at the moment, which is understandable.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Sun 20 Jan 2013 - 12:06

I think the old forum is already being phased out to an extent
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Sun 20 Jan 2013 - 22:37

It's a bit awkward. On one had I think that, given that Chris said the old forum was going, the speed and enthusiasm in which this has been set up by all y'alls makes this the ideal place for a new home; also, as most (if not all) of the magazines in the "magazine" section of the CVG forums are defunct, I assumed it would disappear, and I am cool with this.

Having said that, it sounds like Chris has gone out of his way to keep that section open, essentially, for us 2-dozen half-wits; I can't see a mega-financial reason the Corporate Overlords would let him do that. Therefore, there's a bit of me that thinks we should grab the proverbial olive branch.

As much as I hate all those f***ing emoticons that are putting me off my typing, I really feel Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 7:21

It's a properly tough position to be in. In my opinion, though, the number of posts made here versus the number of posts made on the NGamer forum in the same time is telling a story.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 12:32

I for one have no issue making this my permanent choice for all things NGamery. Plus, as Chris is now fully absorbed within CVG, and not just a one-man fighting machine on Team NGamer, I don't have to feel guilty. I hardly went on CVG as it is.

Long live GNamer. But of course, let us not forget NGamer *salutes*
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 19:05

Personally speaking, I can't see as there is anything "awkward" about either these forums or the old forums and yes I did just say the "Old" forums.

Whilst I like other am also very grateful to CS & Future for rethinking their decision regarding the old forums, the truth is that took that original decision like most large companies do, they acted first and then found out that they were out of touch with their own readers (customers), Stu acted quickly and set up these forums, as the original message from CS made it very clear that the old place was living on borrowed time and was at that time scheduled to be switched off & deleted within a few days, I still believe that all of this could have been avoided if the time frame would have been weeks instead of days.

Sadly though Future/CVG has as it now trasnspires completely and utterly cocked this up, they have in fact shot themselves in the foot, as Stu acted quickly setting these forums up, most of the esteemed regulars voted with their feet and so we have supported Stu.

Admittedly the "old" forums have ahd their death sentance lifted, but lets be honest how long for?

Whose to say that in a years time Future/CVG might have decided once again to close the forums, so if anybody should feel "awkward" it should be those bean counters at future/CVG!

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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 23:46

Balladeer wrote:
I was going to create some sort of poll, asking whether we wanted to use one forum or both, but the consensus from people I've asked (not counting the unreliable-as-heck Sporky) is that we should naturally let that decision be made. However, I will probably send a PM to Chris over at the old place, letting him know the situation. He's done well by us, poor chap, and he deserves to know what's going on.

I'll continue to use both for the time being, but I can see one being phased out over time. And the way things are going, I can see that being NGamer. Aww!

Sorry about that. Been really busy as of late (Sunday afternoon was the first time I set aside time to post on these wonderful forums) but I should be on a bit more regularly this week.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 4:18

Gazzadp wrote:
Personally speaking, I can't see as there is anything "awkward" about either these forums or the old forums and yes I did just say the "Old" forums.

Whilst I like other am also very grateful to CS & Future for rethinking their decision regarding the old forums, the truth is that took that original decision like most large companies do, they acted first and then found out that they were out of touch with their own readers (customers), Stu acted quickly and set up these forums, as the original message from CS made it very clear that the old place was living on borrowed time and was at that time scheduled to be switched off & deleted within a few days, I still believe that all of this could have been avoided if the time frame would have been weeks instead of days.

Sadly though Future/CVG has as it now trasnspires completely and utterly cocked this up, they have in fact shot themselves in the foot, as Stu acted quickly setting these forums up, most of the esteemed regulars voted with their feet and so we have supported Stu.

Admittedly the "old" forums have ahd their death sentance lifted, but lets be honest how long for?

Whose to say that in a years time Future/CVG might have decided once again to close the forums, so if anybody should feel "awkward" it should be those bean counters at future/CVG!

Best Wishes

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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 19:49

Gazzadp wrote:
Whilst I like other am also very grateful to CS & Future for rethinking their decision regarding the old forums, the truth is that took that original decision like most large companies do, they acted first and then found out that they were out of touch with their own readers (customers), Stu acted quickly and set up these forums, as the original message from CS made it very clear that the old place was living on borrowed time and was at that time scheduled to be switched off & deleted within a few days, I still believe that all of this could have been avoided if the time frame would have been weeks instead of days.

...

Admittedly the "old" forums have ahd their death sentance lifted, but lets be honest how long for?

Whose to say that in a years time Future/CVG might have decided once again to close the forums, so if anybody should feel "awkward" it should be those bean counters at future/CVG!

This. Well said Mr. Dp. It's a temporary reprieve, no matter how much Mr. Scullion will fight for it.
I was listening to an old GamesRadar UK podcast, from last year; there's a bit where Matt Cundy sort-of let his guard down, he made a big point of the "suits" removing all the fun from games journalism, and being concerned about deadlines and market growrth; you get the impression there's a difference of opinion between the head honchos and the writers, that wasn't there 10 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 20:21

It's a recession though. It was going to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 21:34

We have no suits to please here. I'm wearing t-shirt and jeans today.
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 21:46

Stu_the_great wrote:
We have no suits to please here. I'm wearing t-shirt and jeans today.
At least, that's what he wants us to think!
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 22:16

Mind you like I CLEARLY pointed out in my long reply to CS on the old forum, the fact that CVG/Future were trying to use the "recession" and the "financial costs of running the website" as EXCUSES, well they were P*SS POOR excuses to say the least, personally I feel that the bean counters at CVG/Future were being both disingenuous and worst dishonest.

Others can believe what they want, if others want to take what was said in CS original post on face value then that is up to them. When you read Chris's post it actually becomes apparent that if CVG/Future could have had their way, they would have just closed the forums down, there and then. It seems they would have been happy to just pressed delete, pulled the plug and then just shut the door after themselves without so much as any hint of what was coming...

Anyway I said in my original reply in the old forums, that to use cost as the reason WAS NOT & CANNOT BE TRUE!

I have got a business hosting package with a UK hosting company, admittedly I only really use it for the premium email services.

But my hosting package gives me the ability to host AS MANY DOMAINS AS I WANT on the one hosting contract.

Each domain can have unlimited FREE subdomains.

For example domain.com is paid for, but I can set up as many other domains that all end with domain.com as I want and for NOTHING!

Likewise I get UNLIMITED traffic/bandwidth.

So unless CVG/Future is closing ALL of their websites, they will not be making any savings.

As for the forums, well the forum software is free, the moderators are usually all VOLUNTEERS so that is free to. You can make Moderators into forum administrators, so the complete day to day running of the forums is REALLY FREE!

No doubt CVG/Future employ staff especially to work on their website, but the forums should not cost them much money to run, really they should be able to run themselves with little or no cost.

As it is a busy website with good traffic such as the CVG/Future website should be making more money in advertising revenue than the cost of running it, if it is not then CVG/Future are doing something wrong.

Anyway, I will finish this lecture with this FACT...

TV, Radio & printed media advertising revenues have constantly fallen year on year in the last few years. Internet/Online advertising fell a little for a short time, but I say this without any doubt Internet/Online advertising revenue is now far out growing other kinds of advertising revenues.

A good example is you only need to look at some of the figures that Google pays out to some youtube uploaders, if you have good videos on youtube and you let youtube run adverts before your videos, you can make THOUSANDS OF POUNDS! So the advertising revenue is there, if you have the web traffic to support & justify it!

Best Wishes.,

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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Thu 31 Jan 2013 - 20:26

Just wanted to point out that as of today, Nintendo Gamer as a website no longer exists. No



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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Thu 31 Jan 2013 - 20:34

He's right. The url leads straight to CVG's Nintendo page. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Ah. This is awkward...   Fri 1 Feb 2013 - 15:50

No Pale Sad Crying or Very sad Boo-hoo Silent Well at least we have each other...
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