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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Mon 1 Dec 2014 - 1:53

I'm sure we've all heard the AOW podcast with Punk by now & I have to say it's changed my mind about the situation a lot, even how I view wwe as a company, now I had heard many a horror story about backstage politics etc but the stuff he had to endure with his injuries is absolutely crazy.

No wonder many wrestlers have ended up with severe mental health problems as he mentioned himself it's mind boggling that they don't have a wrestlers union & I really hope this can change in the near future.

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In more local wrestling related news I thought TCK might want to give this event a look.

http://www.bcw-wrestling.com/news/2014/11/17/no-blood-no-sympathy



The card looks great too especially the Killie one.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sun 7 Dec 2014 - 17:29

Cheers for the consideration, Jaster, but I moved up to Aberdeen in the summer - sadly I'll not get to any Ayrshire events any time soon!

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Although I'm not really keeping up with WWE too much at the moment, I struggle to think of a time over the last fifteen years where there's been less star power than now. I saw the SmackDown main event - it was Ryback and Erick Rowan Vs. Seth Rollins and The Big Show. EH?!?! That indy card Jaster mentioned had matches that looked better!

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sun 7 Dec 2014 - 20:17

I guess most of you have seen CM Punk has signed for UFC which seems so weird.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Mon 8 Dec 2014 - 8:33

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Cheers for the consideration, Jaster, but I moved up to Aberdeen in the summer - sadly I'll not get to any Ayrshire events any time soon!

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Although I'm not really keeping up with WWE too much at the moment, I struggle to think of a time over the last fifteen years where there's been less star power than now. I saw the SmackDown main event - it was Ryback and Erick Rowan Vs. Seth Rollins and The Big Show. EH?!?! That indy card Jaster mentioned had matches that looked better!


Ahh that's a shame you won't be able to make the Ayrshire show.

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Aye that smackdown main event was terrible and the first match of the night (Harper VS Ziggler for the IC title) should have replaced it, I honestly don't like how they've kept Kane & show with Rollins when he could be pulling a lot more heat with just Noble & Mercury by his side....it's almost like they don't fully trust in him being main event guy.

There's still a lot I enjoy about wwe but I have felt at times that I'm watching out of habit, luckily I'm loving my ICW on demand subscription & that's where I'm getting most of my wrestling fix at the minute.

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I guess most of you have seen CM Punk has signed for UFC which seems so weird.

I don't find it weird at all as he's been doing Brazilian jiu jitsu for a long while.

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I don't get the folk who are saying he will get pummeled as he's "scrawny" etc well here's a some info for ye, the best fighters in MMA aren't big muscle bound guys it's skill and mentality that makes for the best fighter so if he trains properly then I see no reason why he can't be successful.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Mon 8 Dec 2014 - 10:27

Yeah I know he will be fighting at either 175 or 180, so guys will be the same size anyway but you don't go from nothing right to the big leagues. I know brock did but he had a proper wrestling background though.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Mon 8 Dec 2014 - 20:34

Great article from Jim Ross on Punk in the UFC.

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/dana-white-s-signing-of-cm-punk-to-ufc-is-a-no-brainer-120814
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Wed 31 Dec 2014 - 12:52

I doubt 2014 will be remembered as a "VINTAGE!" year for WWE, but the last RAW gave me reasons to feel optimistic. For a change, it mostly felt like highlights, but in particular Daniel Bryan's return and Ryback's immense promo (finally, something with depth and a story!) made it a RAW to remember.

Fantasy booking here, but I don't think anyone will settle for anything other than Brock Lesnar Vs. Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania. With support from Triple H Vs. Sting, an Undertaker match, John Cena Vs. Rusev and Randy Orton Vs. Seth Rollins (if these are the directions they choose to take), I think WrestleMania could live up to it's own hype.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Wed 31 Dec 2014 - 14:50

It was a very good Raw indeed, I still honestly don't get the appeal of Ryback & the plodding promo of his story done nothing to change that.

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Those are some good WM matches with the exception of Rusev/Cena & something from Taker, as much as it'd be weird not having a taker match at WM with the streak gone I don't see how they can make it as exciting/shocking as his previous bouts.

In Scottish wrasslin business my tickets for Barramania arrived the other day.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sun 4 Jan 2015 - 22:10

Last year, we made predictions for how certain events would unfold through the course of 2014, and threw a few educated guesses in there. Mine were a bit rubbish...

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CM Punk wins the Royal Rumble and wins the WWE Championship for one last time.

Brock Lesnar to be unsuccessful in his early attempts to win the WWE Championship, but go on to win MitB.

The Shield to break up, with Rollins and Reigns going babyface and Ambrose to be this year's Dolph Ziggler (as in 'sure-fire thing they can't f**k up...only for WWE to go f**k up)

Kurt Angle and Sting to WWE, or at least in the process of finishing up with TNA.

AJ Styles to resign with TNA after no serious interest from WWE.

The Ultimate Warrior goes into the WWE Hall of Fame.

The Usos win the Tag Titles at WrestleMania.

Batista/Cena to headline SummerSlam.

Dolph Ziggler leaves WWE.

Antonio Cesaro, Damien Sandow and 3MB turn babyface, Christian, Kofi Kingston and Sheamus turn heel.

Sting to WWE...and that was it. Anyone want to try one for this year? I'll let youse go first.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Thu 8 Jan 2015 - 7:45

I'll wait till we've all laughed at each other's 2014 predictions before chiming in with my 2015 predictions. Speaking of last year's, here's my horrible attempt at being Nostradamus.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 18:06

Are we doing Rumble number picks, also I've just got the Network seems a dam lot of content. It's just a shame RAW or SD aren't up-to-date.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 19:27

Yeah, let's do Rumble picks. How many should we have each, 2?

Also, I'm feeling like some 2015 predictions!

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 19:39

Yeah two picks sound good
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 19:46

Sweet. Tell you what - I'll put the names of everyone into a hat who wants to join in, and then draw numbers like that. Might buy the winner something daft like a £5 Amazon voucher or something like that. I'll draw on Sunday afternoon. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 19:50

Sounds cool
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Tue 20 Jan 2015 - 23:55

Aye I'm in, also mas what do you mean by Raw & SD not being up to date? Don't they show those weekly on the network just like NXT?
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Wed 21 Jan 2015 - 0:16

Nah it's only highlights like you get on the website for Raw and Smackdown. It is a very generous amount of content definitely, I've started out with the Monday Night Wars for now before maybe moving on the Legends House, I've even been tempted to watch Total Divas thanks to WWE Network.

I'm finding it a tough call who'll win the rumble, I'm almost certain it's between Bryan and Reigns but I'd love to see someone like Ambrose or Wyatt win although I think the latter is very unlikely, it's not often a heel wins the Rumble.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Wed 21 Jan 2015 - 1:35

It is quite refreshing that it could be either of those two names you mentioned though Smurfy, especially considering the last two Rumbles have been pretty obvious.

By the by, are you wanting in for the Rumble numbers pick?
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Wed 21 Jan 2015 - 10:46

The RAW & SD on the network is from December and Total DIVAS is season 1 so it's a bit behind but that might have something to do with Sky over here.

And I don't think main event or superstars on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Fri 23 Jan 2015 - 1:51

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It is quite refreshing that it could be either of those two names you mentioned though Smurfy, especially considering the last two Rumbles have been pretty obvious.

By the by, are you wanting in for the Rumble numbers pick?
Yep sign me up please.

There's also the small factor of Orton who's making his no so quiet return seeing as he's on the poster who could maybe win for a Wrestlemania match against Rollins, last match they had was fantastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Fri 23 Jan 2015 - 10:21

I've seen some folk say this Rumble is going to be a predictable one in terms of the winner but because of returns like Orton as Treesmurf just mentioned I genuinely can't call it, they have so many ways they can take the WM main event.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Fri 23 Jan 2015 - 10:56

I think it's only between Reigns and Bryan to be honest, but at least that's a step up from last year.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sat 24 Jan 2015 - 15:13

Have had a few years off of WWE, but bought the Network and I'm loving it! I've been alternating between 1998 WCW and WWF. My thoughts may not hold much weight as I've only started watching Raw since Sting entered - before that it was when The Rock returned! So I'm not too keen on the current product, although I like Ambrose, Bryan and Dolph. I can't get my head around why Seth Rollins is main eventing Royal Rumble - he's so dull.

I can't believe Brock has been champion since August. It's annoying that he is rarely defending it, but the belt has regained some value because of it. Unless it's Cena, whoever beats Brock for the title will go over in a big way. Seeing as Brock is portrayed as near-invincible, it may be that a crafty win is in order: perhaps Undertaker's music with the BONG hits on Raw a few weeks before Wrestlemania and causes Brock to become paranoid or distracted. I suppose Ambrose could work that twisted, crafty gimmick more than Bryan. Reigns has the look, but not convinced of him on the microphone.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sat 24 Jan 2015 - 19:12

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I can't get my head around why Seth Rollins is main eventing Royal Rumble - he's so dull.


I think he's a really solid heel, and besides Triple H, WWE are really lacking in the top heel department. They've turned Orton babyface, Kane and Big Show aren't up to it, Bray Wyatt gets cheered more than any actual heat, but Rollins actually does the job.

Oh, by the by, are you up for being in our Royal Rumble pools this year? Just a bit of a fun - and I'll give the winning number a £5 Amazon giftcard, just for a laugh.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread II   Sat 24 Jan 2015 - 20:37

I actually really rate Rollins as a foil for the other two ex Shielders. Ambrose is probably my favourite guy in the WWE right now and his feud with Rollins was ace.

Also, count me in on the Rumble gamble.
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