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PostSubject: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Thu 26 Feb 2015 - 22:55

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/02/study_finds_that_us_consumers_are_buying_wii_u_for_its_fun_factor_and_kid-friendly_nature



Well that's just awful.  I mean, I know that Johnny Public frequently makes The Wrong Decisions, but - well, just look at the list of One points.  And "resolution" coming out on top of the PS4 pile?  At least the top reason for the Wii U is reasonable, if vague.

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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 0:28

As a person with a marketing background, I find all of this kind of stuff pointless and puerile.  If you ask people stupid questions, you get stupid answers.  Anyway, let me go through some of the responses for my own fun:

PS4:
Better Resolution - Whilst that is terrific, how does it make a game more fun?
Blu Ray Player - Whooppee.  I don't own Blu Ray discs, so it isn't really helpful and how does that make it a better machine for games?
Game Library - Really?  I know this is subjective, but really?  I don't see a single game I give a toss about in the library.
Faster Processing Power - Yes, that is a good thing, but it ain't what you got, it's what you do with it, so it is more about potential than reality.
What Family Wants - Not my family, but maybe yours.

XBox One:
Brand - That would be the single dumbest response in history.  It is so shallow it is almost as shallow as a Kardashian. That is fanboy personified.
Innovative Features - Oh wait, this is even dumber than the last one, I stand to be corrected.  What innovation?  It is Xbox 360 2.  It plays games just like it always has, nothing more.
Faster Processing Power - As I said about the PS4.
Exclusive Game/Content - Yes, it has some, but probably no more than the PS4.  Unless there is a Microsoft owned franchise you can't live without, like maybe Halo, then there isn't much to this.
Fun Factor - Completely subjective and if you believe that, then it is true, but seriously, game systems are all toys, all of them and fun factor is the entire point of them.

Wii U:
Fun Factor - As I said for Xbox One, but in the case of the Wii U, it generally applies more as the games made by Nintendo tend to be more light-hearted and designed for families to enjoy together.
Better For Kids - Unfortunately this just plays into the hands of the immature fanboys who 'think' they have 'grown up' and don't play Nintendo any more.  The games the kids enjoy are the same ones the adults enjoy, as they cross age boundaries.  I think it generalises to the point of condescension.
Price/Value - Well, it should be cheaper as it uses cheaper technology, but really, the price gap isn't big enough to really matter all that much.
Backwards Compatibility - Undoubtably true, it gives you access to an instant library of older games if you didn't play them, at a reasonable cost.  It is funny that when PS2 had BC, it was talked about with such pride as to the system superiority, then when the PS3 dropped it, the same people claimed it didn't really matter.  People always justify their purchasing decisions, but they are not fooling anyone.
Exclusive Games/Content - That is the most true statement in the whole stupid survey.  It isn't really a discussion as Nintendo are both a major game developer and system creator.  However, all systems have exclusive content, just Nintendo has more, keeping in mind that this comes with a price, as it doesn't have many, many games the other systems share, which is why most of us will have a Wii U and one of the others.

That is my take on it.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 9:21

Laughed when I saw "brand" as the number one reason for owning a One. Fanboyism taken to the extreme.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:13

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Laughed when I saw "brand" as the number one reason for owning a One. Fanboyism taken to the extreme.

It is pretty awesome isn't it. Oh well, I suppose there are no real reasons to buy one otherwise. Cheeky

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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:16

Interesting that exclusive content comes up on the One. It's doing better than PS4 at the moment but traditionally I find Playstation to be the real powerhouse of the two for exclusives.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:17

Also - and I could be wrong with this - doesn't the PS4 have superior graphics processing than the Xbox One? Yet that's apparently a higher priority for One owners. Odd.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:20

Xbox One is the slower beast in nearly every aspect Laughing I've sat through many more painful installs for One games and I have fewer of them.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:22

Honestly, it's the Xbox One category on this survey that puzzles me the most - I can agree with a few on the PS4 side and a few on the Wii U side, but the One totally boggles the mind on most of its reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 10:24

The worst thing is that, for reasons like this, MS is doing best in the States. No
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 11:32

To copy Oldschool but looking at slightly more objective way as rember 2 of these are considered all-in-one entertainment systems now.


PS4:
Better Resolution If you are looking at both systems which offer a similar experience at a similar price, this might be a deciding factor if you want the most bang for your buck, I know when I had a PS4 & ONE and when I buy a ONE again I will but most games on PS4 due to this reason as I want the best I can for my £40-50
Blu Ray Player As someone who owned a PS3 from day one, I've been using Blu Ray for along time and back in the day Blu Ray's had labels on saying works with PS3 and recently I bought TMNT3D which has on the back you need a PS3 or 3D Blu Ray Player (Not sure why PS4 not on there yet), so even though the ONE can play Blu Ray's Sony & PlayStation have now been come associated with them that if you have a PS3 & some Blu Ray's you know if you buy a PS4 you'll be able to watch them
Game Library I think the PS4 already has the biggest current gaming library with most well known series people buy like COD, FIFA, Madden all on there and it had a early decent exclusive in Infamous that thinsg like that might get people to buy
Faster Processing Power Yeah has been seen games take no time to install
What Family Wants As I've not got a family but it has all the family games like LEGO, mature content like COD and access to things like Netflix that it is a all-in-one system and likely exclusives that appeal to a aboard audience eg Ratchet & Clank and Bloodborne

XBox One:
Brand It fanboy is but also makes sense as one of the colleagues at work most of his gaming life was late PS2 and all of the 360's as when that came he was 9. So he's grown up with the 360 and so has his mates, none one them really play any of the Xbox exclusives but they play NBA 2K, FIFA, COD together over Xbox Live and that has become the well known brand for the dude bros
Innovative Features Only thing I can think of especially for the North American market is the DVR TV recording stuff and Snap feature tings along those lines, nothing that interests me but might some and is something the PS4 doesn't have
Faster Processing Power Kinda dumb but I guess there basing this of the 360 and this of course has more then a 360
Exclusive Game/Content This is a weird one as the PS4 does have the more exclusives but depends on what you want and as like I said about a colleague at work FIFA & COD either have stuff early or exclusive content
Fun Factor This is all subjective as I did have fun with mu ONE with the games I wanted to play at the time on it and I will in the future as well

Wii U:
Fun Factor Yeah I do have fun when I play my Wii U and it has the most pick up and play sort of fun games
Better For Kids I kinda agree as look at the 3rd party content it's LEGO, Skylanders, Just Dance which will appeal more towards a younger audince then you add on Nintendo's family freinsly games on top of that makes it more of a family system
Price/Value Yeah it's the cheapest which it should be even with the gamepad and well over £100 difference between a Wii U & a PS4ONE a lot might look at this a the best option to get a 8th gen system and new games
Backwards Compatibility I've had lot's of systems that have been BC but it's not something that has really bother me as I've barely used the feature but I think with the Wii U there's more to it especially the family aspect that mum can still play her Wii Fit & you don't have to buy a load of new controllers
Exclusive Games/Content The major selling point and why most will pick up a Wii U as you can't get Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3 anywhere else for instance

@Balla PS4 is 700,000 in front of the ONE in North America and the ONE has only won 2 months out of 14 but those 2 were very important ones. But NA & UK seems to be the ONE's best regions due to the brand power the 360 had, same in main land EU where the PS4 is dominating due to brand following PlayStation has gotten over the years.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 11:53

That's some consolation, at least. I'd still think that "brand" is a bloody stupid primary reason, though.

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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 11:57

Yeah it is a silly reason but I know from people like I've said because there first real console was a 360 (that makes me sad) that they've stayed loyal and so has the friends. A few would of looked at PS4 instead due to how the ONE was presented & price but that has long since changed.

But very much like you if you started on a PS1 instead of the N64 you might of been very different balla.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 27 Feb 2015 - 12:55

Nonetheless, I'd choose "fun-factor" and "exclusives" far above "brand". I feel that everybody should, if I'm honest - with maybe a nod to "potential" points.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 9:29

I've read all your responses, but I still come to the same conclusion: "Brand" might as well read "derp".
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 9:47

It's just something that happens like with iPhones people buy them because of the Apple Brand
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 10:32

I think that the iPhone thing is different, even though brand is still a stupid reason for buying a 'phone on its own. You need a 'phone to call and make texts, maybe browse the Internet and check e-mails in this day and age, and all of them can do that. If we ignore 'phones as gaming platforms, there's not much to choose between them, since they all carry out the basic functions in the same way.

But you can't get a Wii U's games on a PS4 or One, and vice versa, and in a few cases you can't get One games on the PS4 and vv. They perform their fundamental task in very different ways. Given that, surely that should be the main reason for acquiring your console?

Nonetheless, I don't think anyone's doubting that brand plays a part - just that it shouldn't. As somebody who has owned all three console pillars, presumably you agree.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 10:36

I totally agree and will be getting the 3rd pillar again. And I agree brand is a silly choice but I can see why people do & have bought things for brand.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 12:00

Whilst I agree that most of the reasons given above are not great, but let's flip it around: what are good reasons to buy consoles?
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 12:05

The games available on them, and the potential for games available on them. Surely that should be it?
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 12:37

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The games available on them, and the potential for games available on them.  Surely that should be it?

I agree, but price is a big factor as well. I almost always buy a console when the games that I want reach a critical mass of viability and the price is at least 40% below launch price. Sometimes there is sufficient games at launch, and a reasonable price, but usually only Nintendo. I waited 6 months for a Wii U and the only reason I picked it was because a store was quitting them and selling them at half price. I probably would have waited over a year from launch otherwise.

I picked up a 360 about 3 years into the life for some JRPG and this time, based on previous experience, I won't be picking up a One at all. I just cannot see enough games ever justifying it when any of the JRPGs I want will be on the PS4.

I picked up the PS3 about 4 years into it and that was about both price and games. The PS3 was just too expensive and I didn't care abut the Blu Ray player. Enough games to justify it happened first and in fact, I had about 6-8 PS3 games log before I bought the console, but it took a long time to drop in price. I don't expect to get a PS4 until 2016 as then the price will be below the Wii U launch price and maybe there will finally be at least one game I care about.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 12:42

I guess I'm thinking from a value-for-money perspective, although a new console doesn't usually qualify as too major an expense for me (to add some context, I'm soon going to have to start looking for a new laptop.  The most expensive console I've ever owned, a £250 N64, will likely be half that price Sad ).  You want there to be enough games on that console to make the amount you pay for the platform to be worthwhile.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Sat 28 Feb 2015 - 16:02

That's one of the pros/cons of primarily gaming on PC. The cost of "buying a new console" - or upgrading your hardware in this case - is higher than console gaming, but there's no concern about having a dearth of games to play, nor a concern about having to pay through the roof for older titles.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 6 Mar 2015 - 10:03

I'm quite happy with the way Wii U stacks up there. Resolution and brand are rubbish-if-predictable number ones for the other two consoles. No
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 6 Mar 2015 - 18:38

A point based on Stu's thought there: 'brand' is stereotypically why Nintendo fans buy their products, but the only response that you could even make seem like brand loyalty was the fifth one.
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PostSubject: Re: US Survey About Why People Buy Consoles (Warning: Stupidity)   Fri 6 Mar 2015 - 18:51

Yeah Nintendo brand is why I bought my DS, Wii, 3DS and Wii U also guess why amiibo are selling as well.
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