Counting Classics on Consoles

I want an ending to the series too.

ZeroJones wrote:

I nominate the 2000 Spider-Man game, because I felt it was better than the second one.

Hang about... are you talking about this:

being better than this:


Because I thought we were primarily talking about this:

with the amazing swinging.

The 2000 Spider-Man being better than Enter: Electro, yes. If the Spider-Man 2 being referred to in the vote is the one based on the film release, I have to retract my vote for it because I haven't played it!

I nominated the film tie-in! I didn't really rate the PS1 Spider-Men.

Was the 2000 Spiderman the one by the Treyarch guys, who did Tony Hawks? Recall an interview with them in an old Dreamcast magazine and it looked pretty good at the time.

Zero's vote for Spider-Man 2 has been retracted.

I think your right gJones, I've got the game on DC and think it looks decent enough as Treyarch did great ports to the console like Tony Hawks 2.

Last week had 29 games go in with some big games including a game in gJones and mine Top 10 of all-time even getting a No, with some I thought would get put forward like the second in a series which had it's fifth main game come out Tuesday but we might becoming back to missed games.

Anyway we move on to

Jan 2005 - Dec 2009

Batman: Arkham Asylum Y 7-0
Bayonetta Y 6-1
BioShock Y 6-0
Burnout Paradise Y 4-2
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Y 4-0
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Y 1-0
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening Y 2-1
Dissidia: Final Fantasy Y 1-1
Dragon Age: Origins Y 3-0
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey Y 1-0
Flower Y 2-1
Gears of War 2 Y 4-0
Halo 3 Y 3-0
Halo Wars Y 1-0
Heavenly Sword Y 1-3
Jade Empire Y 1-0
Kingdom Hearts II Y 1-1
Mass Effect Y 5-0
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Y 4-0
Okami Y 7-0
Portal Y 6-0
Resident Evil 4 Y 5-0
Shadow Complex Y 2-2
Shadow of the Colossus Y 5-0
Tales of Vesperia Y 1-1
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Y 4-1
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory Y 2-1
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Y 4-1
Valkyria Chronicles Y 2-0
Viva Piñata Y 3-0
Star Wars Battlefront 2 A 2-0
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater / Subsistence Y 4-0
Persona 3 A 2-0
Guitar Hero III A 3-1
Lost Odyssey A 2-1
Persona 4 Y 3-0
Fable II N 2-2
Fallout 3 N 4-1
Left 4 Dead N 2-2
Skate 2 A 1-1
Street Fighter IV A 3-0
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time A 3-0
Assassin's Creed II N 3-2
Left 4 Dead 2 A 2-0
Psychonauts A 1-0
Tomb Raider Anniversary A 2-1
Pro Evo Soccer 5 N 3-1
Team Fortress 2 A 2-0
Peter Jackson's King Kong N 1-1
Dead Space A 2-0
God of War 2 Y 2-2
Grand Theft Auto IV A 3-1
Fahrenheit Y 2-0

Bayonetta OUI
Okami JA
Resident Evil 4 SI

This is one of my favourite periods of gaming - I played so much on the Wii and the 360 during this time. I'm going to nominate a boatload of games this week. Let's rock!

Batman: Arkham Asylum: Yep!
Bayonetta: Yep!
BioShock: Yep!
Burnout Paradise: Yep!
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare: Yep!
Gears of War 2: Yep! If you'd said the first one I might have said no, but GoW2 is amazing.
Halo 3: Yep!
Mass Effect : As janky as it is, I love it. Yes.
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots: BROTHERRRRRRRRR. Yep!
Portal: Yep!
Shadow Complex: It was a fun Metroidvania, but the fact I remember next to nothing about it suggests that it wasn't classic material. No.
Shadow of the Colossus: Of course!
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: Yep!

And my nominations:

Star Wars Battlefront 2
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Persona 3
Guitar Hero III
Lost Odyssey (I doubt anyone here has played this, but goddamn it's such a good RPG)
Persona 4
Fable II
Fallout 3
Left 4 Dead
Skate 2
Street Fighter IV
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time
Assassin's Creed II
Left 4 Dead 2

masofdas wrote:

Last week had 29 games go in with some big games including a game in gJones and mine Top 10 of all-time even getting a No, with some I thought would get put forward like the second in a series which had it's fifth main game come out Tuesday but we might becoming back to missed games.

...mate, just say the names of games.


Batman: Arkham Asylum yes
Bayonetta yes
BioShock yes
Burnout Paradise yes
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare hmmm... yes, but this is THE ONLY ONE.
Dragon Age: Origins YES
Halo 3 yes
Mass Effect yes, obviously
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots yes
Okami yes
Portal yes
Resident Evil 4 yes
Shadow Complex yes
Shadow of the Colossus yes, probably is PS2's best game
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Nah, fuck it into the sea.
Viva Piñata yes
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence PS2's actual best game. Yes
Street Fighter IV Yes


I'll think of mine later.

@Jay I've only heard good thing about Lost Odyssey and was only saying the other day about a HD remaster of it.

@Drunka I can't say every game, as then you've got something to put forward also still don't get the Uncharted hate as 2 is f'ing brilliant at everything in the hyper action adventure genre (what Naughty Dog says about the genre)

On this era was good PS2 & Xbox went out on some top titles like SotC & Jade Empire then what would of been next gen kicked of, I don't have fond memories of the Wii like you Jay and having looked at these classic the 360 was good up to about the end of this weeks time frame then became all about the PS3.

masofdas wrote:

including a game in gJones and mine Top 10 of all-time even getting a No, with some I thought would get put forward like the second in a series which had it's fifth main game come out Tuesday

Because he was a dwarf. Made of ice.



But oh boy, this is going to be a complicated one - abstains missed out:
Batman: Arkham Asylum - Yes
BioShock - *breathes in through teeth* - Yes. Although I don't actually like the game having played it recently, my opinion may have differed with 7-years-ago-eyes.
Heavenly Sword - No. Feel a bit mean giving things a No at this stage, but I think this is a good opportunity missed
Kingdom Hearts II - No. (Feel less mean about this one).
Mass Effect - Yes
Okami - YEAH
Portal - YEAH!
Resident Evil 4 - YEAH!!
Shadow of the Colossus - Yeah
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - YES!!
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - Yes
Fable II - Yes
Street Fighter IV - Yep

And now for my suggestions to be "No"d by all:
Psychonauts
Tomb Raider Anniversary - I know it's a remake, but it reeeally modernises the original idea
Pro Evo Soccer 5
Team Fortress 2

Tomb Raider Anniversary I can yes that one. A really fun game, and actually playable to this day unlike the PS1 originals.

Jimbob wrote:

masofdas wrote:

including a game in gJones and mine Top 10 of all-time even getting a No, with some I thought would get put forward like the second in a series which had it's fifth main game come out Tuesday

Because he was a dwarf. Made of ice.

There are probably much more sensible things I should be suggesting, but this comes to mind:

Peter Jackson's King Kong
This was kind of a last hurrah for the whole idea of tie-in games. You still get games based on licences, but the concept of a console game being released alongside a film to directly tie in fell off as soon as games became just as expensive to make as the films themselves. Here, though, the game was produced alongside the film with a lot of involvement and a proper game director in Michel Ancel. It was criticised at the time for being short, but when you're going back and playing an old game that can actually be a godsend. And in those five hours you get luscious visuals, innovative shooting and enjoyable monster mashes. I love old monster films and the release of King Kong in 2005 was a big deal to me. So when it was released on 360, I was so jealous I convinced myself the DS version was good.

Drunkalilly wrote:

Tomb Raider Anniversary I can yes that one. A really fun game, and actually playable to this day unlike the SEGA Saturn original.

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Yes to Team Fortress 2! Cracking team shooter, that.

masofdas wrote:

Drunkalilly wrote:

Tomb Raider Anniversary I can yes that one. A really fun game, and actually playable to this day unlike the SEGA Saturn original.

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Drunka said originals though... if we're going to get pedantic here, there was only one on Saturn.

I was just messing, I've not played the original sort of three TR for a good while but when I played the first on N-Gage it hadn't aged as bad as you would of thought.

Batman: Arkham Asylum Yes
Bayonetta Yes
BioShock Yes
Burnout Paradise No. The classic Burnouts are 2, 3 and Revenge. Paradise lost something for me, it felt like Test Drive Unlimited which was shite.
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Abstain (yes, really)
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Abstain
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening Yes, enjoyed this a lot more than the previous ones.
Dissidia: Final Fantasy Abstain
Dragon Age: Origins Abstain
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey Abstain but really want to play this.
Flower Abstain
Gears of War 2 Yes. I enjoyed all three Gears but 2 was the best.
Halo 3 Abstain. I'm not a Halo fan to be honest.
Halo Wars Abstain.
Heavenly Sword Abstain.
Jade Empire Abstain.
Kingdom Hearts II Abstain.
Mass Effect Abstain.
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Abstain.
Okami Yes although only played a bit of this.
Portal Yes.
Resident Evil 4 Yes.
Shadow Complex Abstain.
Shadow of the Colossus Abstain. Need to rectify this though.
Tales of Vesperia Abstain.
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Yes.
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory Yes Yes Yes
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Abstain.
Valkyria Chronicles Abstain.
Viva Piñata Abstain.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 Abstain.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater / Subsistence Abstain.
Persona 3 Abstain.
Guitar Hero III Yes. I can't recall if 2 was the one I played though.
Lost Odyssey No, just couldn't get in to this. Seem to recall it having four discs(!)
Persona 4 Abstain.
Fable II Abstain.
Fallout 3 Yes.
Left 4 Dead No.
Skate 2 Abstain.
Street Fighter IV Abstain.
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time Abstain.
Assassin's Creed II Yes. The only one I enjoyed.
Left 4 Dead 2 Abstain.
Psychonauts Abstain.
Tomb Raider Anniversary Abstain.
Pro Evo Soccer 5 YES.
Team Fortress 2 Abstain.
Peter Jackson's King Kong Abstain.

Suggestions:

Dead Space
God of War 2
Grand Theft Auto 4
Fahrenheit

Paradise is my fav Burnout, used to play that for ages online with a bunch of yanks.

Also how did no one put forward GTAIV in till now, also this week has been a bit quiet but Andy and TSmurf are yet to show there selfs.

I was just gonna wait for the end list because I really can't be bothered to work out where the line is

Well you've got till Saturday morning this week Andy, if you wish to yay or nay anything.

A NO to GTA IV. It's not a classic. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed it! But there's too much wrong with it to warrant that classic status.

You have till tomorrow morning then we will be moving on to Jan 2010 to Now

In with the late votes with my many abstains removed.

Batman: Arkham Asylum Yes
Bayonetta No
Burnout Paradise Yes
Flower No
Halo 3 Yes
Heavenly Sword No
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Yes
Okami Yes
Resident Evil 4 Yes
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Yes
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater / Subsistence Yes
Guitar Hero III Yes
Fallout 3 Yes
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time Yes
Assassin's Creed II No
Pro Evo Soccer 5 Yes
God of War 2 No
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes

A 'no' to Bayonetta, smurfles! Interesting... I didn't enjoy what I played of it that much, but it's got such a reputation of excellence. What's made you vote against it, if you don't mind me asking?

Batman: Arkham Asylum Yes
Bayonetta Yes
BioShock Yes
Burnout Paradise No
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Yes
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening No
Dissidia: Final Fantasy No
Dragon Age: Origins Yes
Flower Yes
Gears of War 2 Yes
Heavenly Sword No
Mass Effect Yes
Okami Yes
Portal Yes
Resident Evil 4 Yes
Shadow Complex No - good game though
Shadow of the Colossus Yes
Tales of Vesperia No
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion No
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory No
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Yes
Valkyria Chronicles Yes
Viva Piñata Yes
Star Wars Battlefront 2 Yes
Persona 3 Yes
Guitar Hero III No
Lost Odyssey Yes
Persona 4 Yes
Fable II No
Fallout 3 Yes
Left 4 Dead Yes
Skate 2 No
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time Yes
Assassin's Creed II Yes
Left 4 Dead 2 Yes
Tomb Raider Anniversary No
Dead Space Yes
God of War 2 No
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes